Was just perusing some info and came across this Q&A on the W&B website . . . .

Q: Are dogs docked after the ban welcome at the show?
A: As the Wag & Bone Show makes a charge for admission, docked dogs are,
unfortunately, restricted by the law if they are being brought to the
show to compete. In this particular case, the dogs docked before the
ban came into place are not affected and may compete, but the dog which
was docked after the ban - even though it was docked legally - may not
compete. If the dogs are simply being brought to the show to enjoy the
atmosphere (ie and not compete) then there is no problem.

It hadn't even occured to me that even legally docked dogs cannot compete in fun dog shows if there is an admission charge!

Also there are a number of shows now that aren't charging admission but are still banning dogs legally docked after March 2007.

Tis a minefield and if I get a natural bob Brittany next I wonder what would happen at some shows where the management might not know the fact the breed throws "manx" dogs .

Strange! Err how are they going to know whether the dog was docked before or after the ban??

Did Sue just announce she was getting another dog?????????????????

Yes it does state exactly that so the ban seems to be a part of the law as it applies to working dogs. So if a dog IS a working dog but NOT docked ......... this I must find out

Was just thinking the same

Pertaining to Brittanys I should have added the proviso NEXT TIME .

As for anything else

Poor Sue! You is rumbled!

UK Tail Docking legislation as at May 2007

All UK legislation has now been passed and enacted as follows;

The docking of dogs' tails was banned in England from 6 April 2007 and in Wales from 28 March 2007 but with exemptions from the ban for certain working dogs, and for medical treatment. A total ban in Scotland took effect 30 April 2007

There is also a ban on the showing of docked dogs (all dogs docked after the commencement date of 6 April/28 March) at events to which members of the public are admitted on payment of a fee. However, this ban does not apply to dogs shown for the purpose of demonstrating their working ability.
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Showing of Docked Dogs

A dog docked before the 28 March 2007 in Wales and 6 April 2007 in England may continue to be shown at all shows in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland throughout its natural life.

A dog docked on, or after, the above dates, irrespective of where it was docked, may not be shown at shows in England and Wales where the public is charged a fee for admission.

However, where a working dog has been docked in England and Wales under the respective regulations set out above, it may be shown where the public are charged a fee, so long as it is shown “only to demonstrate its working ability”. It will thus be necessary to show working dogs in such a way as ONLY to demonstrate their working ability and not conformity to a standard.

A dog legally docked in England, Wales, Northern Ireland or abroad may be shown at any show in Scotland or Northern Ireland.

So fun, companion dog shows, if a fee is charged are a no-go for these dogs and owners

Yes .

Well we went to a show today and docked dogs were shown - in fact some even won prizes and there was a admittance entry.

where it says members of public pay an admittance charge does this mean where you pay to enter the dog show or pay to get into the overalll event (such as village show etc). Although where we went today you paid for both.

Just to stray a little from the topic of fun dog shows, strange isn't it how I am still rehoming docked dogs (docked after the ban) from obviously pet only homes, there isn't a shadow of doubt that these dogs were never going to working homes of any kind

I'm going to stray a bit from the point too to ask why dogs who have been legally docked (in England) CAN be shown in Scotland (where there is a total ban on docking) but not in the country they were docked in ie England??? Is it just me or is that totally ludicrous?

I hadn't thought about fun shows re the ban. They will be hit harder than any other type of show as half the point is the entrance fee to make money for the good cause. That said, I only know of one Welsh litter docked since the ban, though I think there are a few more in the planning (from our working community). Are there a lot of English still being docked?

By fun shows, are we talking things like "prettiest bitch" "most handsome dog" etc.

If so then surely this would be outside of the law as quoted

as the dogs will not be being judged for conformity to a set standard.

Just a thought

Steve